The numbers there are they're pretty simple, but you're still gonna want to keep like that round oval shape in mind, except for obviously with things like the one. Um just d'oh, you're not gonna want to do like a full three lines either. I, uh, lately I more than like, one and a half to two line sort of mood and it changes. So I'm just gonna go one and a half for the one I just start with a little hair line up and the down stroke the feeling up to it, I do a bottom very well, you know that there, and then the two again, you and I want to bring in that oval stroke her oval shape, I should say did on a three I like to start off with those little, um loops basically and it's sort of like kind of like to have a little bit of fun with the numbers, and I know it's not quite reflected here, but you can have a little bit of fun with them. Just all those oval shapes and kind of small loops there five years, obviously a couple ways to do that, you can just d'oh that shape and then connected at t...
he top um, I was using ended that wrong it's been a while since I've done that five but where we go that's it but I am sort of adding this extra element tio lately again these things I'll change with my mood so six is actually that crescent shape plus another smaller one and they meet at the bottom seven oops forget that happened there's or seven and you're eight one swift down movement hair line up more formally it would meet there and not continue up and then you're nine is I'll just keep it on that line so kind of reverse of the six that left crescent shape and then you're right crescent shape ending in a point and then you're ever present oh shape making a pure zero and those are the numbers excellent all right any any final questions do you for like periods commas, that kind of thing I guess newcomers but for like the dot of the idea typically keep them in a circle or are they kind of like that dash e dash um but is there like a rule for copper plate specifically? Yeah definitely. So if I was doing a completely you know, discipline, script or commonly script yes it would do is an actual circle shape and just sort of eat basically especially for doing it on a larger scale. Anything I do on a larger scale is going to be a little bit neater, right? So uh taken just dio una draw your po shape and just sort of fill it in and when I fill in things like that I'm not actually applying pressure all the way um you'll definitely tear up your paper like that and then get your lint stuck in there so it's really like said just drawing it and then sort of filling it in um commas kind of the same thing just a little oval shape with a tiny little hairline um but you have for the most part you know if I'm doing an eye at this scale and it still jot down earlier you mentioned that there are different inks and papers is that based on the project that one is doing say they wanted to invitations or they wanted to create art to scan for digital eric are definitely so everything I'm using right here is exactly what I used tio make artwork for reproduction so like in fifth and scanning into make an invitation something like that so I will absolutely use this um but if I was to use something that I wanted to like frame or have you know like table numbers that of wedding something that I would obviously not use this so it would use just a smoother like just a nice smooth surface nothing gritty and I don't recommend that really for the most part anyway nothing like that's two to three because you'll snag um kraft paper is very popular you know like the whole light ink on craft very popular um you might want tio before doing something like that obviously get a really good feel for your name um because that will definitely catch your paper but it's still usable still looks great um yeah there's just so many different papers out there that you can use and I absolutely recommend experimenting with all that stuff and different nibs um I change my nibs but season choose different names based on the project so if I'm doing something that I want like much wider down strokes you know have your lines I'll choose a more flexible nib that's where my wanna wanted comes in handy you can see like I mean it's just it really opens out versus unify play that same exact pressure to this it's not going to do quite a cz much um so you know there's just always so many different factors to do and I recommend keeping but sorry somebody factors keep in mind and I just recommend keeping all sorts of moves all sorts of ink and your favorite papers like around just to these different projects ok it's your oblique holders to the the top part of it is thicker on the hand made ones versus like I guess the other one that's like the better starter one is that because it's easier in your hand too right longer periods is it better to having this part, huh um it is for me I don't know a lot of people think or they noticed that like a whiter the base of the shaft right here if it's wider it's well cause less fatigues and if it's narrower like this one um it's very possible that's the case I've just gotten so used to this one that it's like I'm not really sure if it works for me or not but it does I've definitely heard that before it's like ok the's wider nubes are sorry the wider pen holders will be less you know cause less fatigue but really for this part it sort of just a comfort thing so um that's just something that I got used to and then when I I told brian that I used a particular pen that was designed by michael soul who's amazing master penman um he was just like, oh, I know exactly what you're talking about and so he sort of duplicated this for maine and I told him by the way have really little hands he's like that's kind of strange that you would want such a fat penn was like I just like it so you know, it was just yeah, it was a factor of him making the pen for me this one was not custom made but it is a lot narrower e means just is beautifully done it is a lot narrower is taking me some getting used to but it's just it's equally as enjoyable to use so it's just I probably wouldn't use this is for, like a cz long is the period. Is this so for the next class, we are definitely not talk about how to connect all of these letters to making words it's going to start off with. And then we will also, um, experiment with different letter forms. So there's, so many things you can do with capital letters and lower case letters just to make a different, um, I would be breaking a lot of rules in that class. So, um, but it seemed a lot of fun. And, you know, we'll just definitely see how to actually put these letters interaction.